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    MRCA Procurement - Is the IAF Chasing a Moving Target?
    Posted by on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 (EST)
    While there does exist a case for increasing the number of MRCA's to be procured, the inclusion of new fighter variants into the current procurement process at this late stage is unfortunate and a cause of concern as is the delay in the procurement process itself.
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    RAF Eurofighter Typhoon preparing to land after first flight with Meteor air-to-air missile.

    The Telegraph had recently reported (Cash crunch stalls Tejas, 06 Feb 2006) that Air headquarters is studying whether it should actually work to acquire more — about 200 — aircraft. Aviation Week and Space Technology has now confirmed the Telegraph report. In addition, AW&ST has reported that IAF my buy from 2-3 suppliers.

    The rationale for revision

    Both the increase in the number of MRCA's to be purchased as well the intend to purchase them from 2-3 suppliers are logical.

    The need to increase the number of aircraft being purchased is mandated by the inordinate delays in the procurement process, steady depletion of the IAF fighter fleet and uncertainties associated with the Tejas program.

    At first glance the inclination of the IAF to procure from multiple suppliers could raise concerns since the IAF, which already flies 26 different aircraft types, will be adding to its logistics and maintenance woes. However, such concerns could turn out to be unfounded since it is likely that just one of the 2-3 MRCA types that the IAF will purchase will be totally new to the force. Additional MRCA procured would probably be news Mirage 2000 and or MiG-29 variants and these cannot strictly be construed as new types.

    Let me elaborate on why I think it makes sense if the MRCA procurement includes multiple types.

    The need to establish defense ties with the US, the fact that the twin engine F/A-18E/F packs the most deadly punch from amidst the contenders and the need to acquire its AESA radar collectively make a compelling case for its selection as the new type that the IAF inducts.

    As I have previously stated in Russia to showcase super maneuverable MiG-29 OVT at MAKS 2005, the one big problem with buying 200 Super Hornets will be the cost of such a procurement. At $60 million a piece we are talking an astounding $12 billion!

    It, therefore, makes eminent sense for the IAF to include other cheaper types like the MiG-35 and / or Mirage 2000 V in the procurement and thereby reduce the overall. Doing so will also reduce dependence on the US whose reliability as a defense supplier continues to be very suspect. There is a need to engage the US, definitely not marry it! Besides, we need the Hornets but not so many of them.

    Buying additional MiG-29 / Mirage 2000 variants will also build on existing investments and keep our current defense partners in good humor.


    Rafale B301 above Bordeaux, France.

    Rafale and Typhoon too are in contention

    What is somewhat inexplicable is that the AW&ST report has also suggested that Dassault Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon are now in contention. That perhaps is the reason that the request for proposals has been delayed and is now expected about July, rather than in March!

    The inclusion of new aircraft types into the procurement process at this late stage, if true, is indeed unfortunate. It seems so much like chasing a moving target, something that only makes sense when you are sitting in a fighter cockpit! It would have been more logical for the IAF and the government to quickly complete the procurement of the 126 MRCAs and then initiate a new procurement that included the Rafale and Eurofighter.

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    MRCA selection
    By black beak on Saturday, March 11, 2006 (EST)
    Vijai

    It is now between the Mig-35 and the Super Bug. First - let us understand the need for the MRCA. The IAF needs large "numbers" at a lower "operations cost". That was the rationale for going in for a single engine MRCA. Sigh..that doesnt seem to be the case anymore.

    Looking at costs the Super Hornet will probably come at a tab of $100 million (if you include AMRAAMs. The Mig-35 with an EL/M-2052 AESA from Israel will probably come in at $40mil. Which would you prefer? Also I am starting to think that if we are going for a twin engine aircraft why not go in for more Sukhoi-MKIs??

    So as I see it the options are
    1. Mig35 + EL/M-2052 @ 40 million
    2. Sukhoi-MKIs + EL/M-2052 @45-50 million
    3. Super Hornet @80 million.

    In case we go in for 125 aircraft the first two come in with a tab of $5 billion the latter would be around $10 billion.

    What do you think??

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    Gripen for IAF
    By abhishek on Friday, March 31, 2006 (EST)
    Mr. Vijainder,
    I think Gripen would be a favorable option to the IAF. Since it a true fourth generation single engine fighter available in the market today with cutting edge technology and an AESA.

    Gripen can be customized for the IAF with Secma M-53 engine and other avionics coming in from France and Israel. South Africans have also ordered the Gripen . It would be comparatively easier for the IAF to maintain them because “South Africa 's Aerospace Monitoring And Systems (Pty) Ltd (AMS)” is helping the IAF to maintain the Sukhoi.

    Gripen’s avionics include
    • NORA (AESA) radar with jamming and data communication capabilities like the AN/APG-81.
    • IR-OTIS “FLIR”
    • Saab Avionics EWS 39 electronic warfare suite.
    Besides it would be also capable of firing Meteor BVRAAM and other European and American missile. All of the above package would come around $60 million much less then that of Rafale , Eurofighter & F-18. Moreover it would be a generation ahead of MIG-35.

    Abhishek

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    No Gripen please
    By black beak on Sunday, April 30, 2006 (EST)
    Ridiculous to have the Gripen. First of all SAAB is selling the ERIEYE to Pakistan. Second the Gripen brings the worst of all worlds. It has a GE engine and I am not sure of the AMRAAM variant the americans would be willing to allow Raytheon to sell with the Gripen.

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    Follow Logic !
    By ballabhyadav on Friday, May 05, 2006 (EST)
    the MRCA that we should go for shoule be really UP in quality because apparently our forces may need to operate it till a long time to come, it also should be a futuristic and upgradable with more option, what i mean to say is a great airframe with good upgradeability, and reliability on spares and all plus needs to be a potent weapon which no other fighter should be able to face in the region.

    it should have endge in all areas like avionics, weapons, range and endurance, and servicability.

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    India should go for Typhoon
    By malaymishra123 on Sunday, October 15, 2006 (EST)
    You are right in mentioning that India should at this stage go for the highest quality while keeping the cost in mind to a lesser extent as the fighters purchased would be the mainstay for the IAF.

    Thus i believe that the IAF should go in for the Eurofighter typhoon, it is arguably the second best A/C in the world, the first being F-22 Raptor and the cost compared with other top-of-the-line fighters is less.Have a look here:

    http://www.eurofighter.com/Typhoon/Cost/

    and many experts have said that in order of combat effectiveness,the ranking goes as:
    F-22
    Typhoon
    Rafale
    then F-18, etc, etc

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    LCA the best
    By pravinutankar on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 (EST)
    euro fighter typhoon, hahha i laugh at it cuause the raf did not bring it during the indo-uk joint air combat training at gwalior, because it was afraid that su-30mki will out perform it..ya it is true..The US faced the defeat..Hence they have now put there JSF in fast gear...hahaha...
    Regarding MRCA typhoon,sab grippen,french rafale are all noob planes, i call it junk...So y LCA u may imagine?
    In INDIA it takes hours just to move a file from 1 table to another...yet what our people have done is excellent work.If LCA get thrust vectoring engine(Russia is helping) and an advance radar(jointly developed with help of isreal), aree yaar ill tell u LCA will rock man...

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    typhoon
    By malaymishra123 on Thursday, October 19, 2006 (EST)
    the RAF brought the OLD tornados, which are being replaced by the typhoons, and the RAF leaders said that they look forward to bringing the typhoon as they did not expect the IAF to kick their ass even with more advanced Su planes. So next time they WILL bring typhoons, and if u read any comparison, all says that typhoon is a really superb plane.

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    MRCA deal
    By fulcrum29 on Thursday, February 01, 2007 (EST)
    I think that the IAF shud go for Mirage 2000-v.
    The main points that support my view are
    1) Iaf pilots are Used to the earlier version of this Aircraft.
    2) As this Aircraft is a modified version of earlier mirage-2000, this means that it has better Avionics, better Radar and Better weapons carrying facilities. And it can be more than a match for pakistani f-16 block 52.
    3) Also as India is now Going for BVR missiles this Aircraft can deliver a killer Punch to the shitty armed forces of Pakistan and China.

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    MRCA deal
    By fulcrum29 on Thursday, February 01, 2007 (EST)
    I think that the IAF shud go for Mirage 2000-v.
    The main points that support my view are
    1) Iaf pilots are Used to the earlier version of this Aircraft.
    2) As this Aircraft is a modified version of earlier mirage-2000, this means that it has better Avionics, better Radar and Better weapons carrying facilities. And it can be more than a match for pakistani f-16 block 52.
    3) Also as India is now Going for BVR missiles this Aircraft can deliver a killer Punch to the shitty armed forces of Pakistan and China.

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    MRCA deal
    By fulcrum29 on Saturday, February 03, 2007 (EST)
    India should go for mirage-2000-v. It will really deliver a killing punch to those shitty armed forces of PAKISTAN and CHINA.

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    mig -35's please
    By david on Thursday, February 15, 2007 (EST)
    I think india should go for the mig-35 series ,it's a fifth generation and we know how performed at the aero expo

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    mig -35's please
    By david on Thursday, February 15, 2007 (EST)
    I think india should go for the mig-35 series ,it's a fifth generation and we know how it performed at the aero expo

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    MiG-35 is the best
    By manibag on Friday, March 21, 2008 (EST)
    It is upto the contenderes what they are offering in terms of technology for MMRCA.
    IAF was always of the opinion to use unique technology which is shared by no one else before them. MiG-35 fits best in the catagory as far as technology and price is concerned. We are already using and manufacturing its RD-33 engines.

    Typhoon is too expensive and the technology is almost the same as Su-30MKI or maximum MiG-35. Choosing MiG-35 will reduce the inventory management and arsenel management. The fighter will provide the interopreatability between the bases. With time to come MiG-35 will also be upgraded with the latest technology.

    Indian Air Force has threats from Pakistan and China and not from the west or somwhere else and in this case MiG-35 suits best

    MiG-35 with its latest technology can give a resistance to F-22 in aireal combat.

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