Comments: Flat Nested Threaded Embedded Oldest First Newest First barak NG By shudra14 on Friday, March 27, 2009 (EST) deal with israel ---------------------------------- barak NG will have range of only 70km and moreover if they make it upto 100-120km range and that will take 5 years to build and s300PMU2 has range of 200 km and s400 has range of 400 km already and chinese invested in S400 and will buy it, moreover they already have s300pmu2 for land and have s300 on their ships with range of 90km so y navy going for BARAK NG if better s300 exixt there is no european and american SAM which compares S400 as of now the latest american system patriot 3 is at most comparable to russian s300pmu2 and there is no european SAM system which beats s300pmu2,s400 isn't the 400 km range of S400 system enough to cover delhi or mumbai much better than israeli SAM moreover if v have s400 inside 150km from paki border it will still destroy thier aircraft and missiles 150 to 200km inside pakistan so what is foolish purpose of going for israeli SAMs when better SAMs already exixt Reply to this Comment TO VKTHAKUR By shudra14 on Friday, March 27, 2009 (EST) newest f15 strike eagle costs $ 100 million per aircraft not $ 31 million and superhornet which has been sold to australia costs $ 80 million and $ 55 million for per superhornet is wrong so i don't believe that boeing will sell f18 to india at this low price that is $ 55 million Reply to this Comment Re: TO VKTHAKUR By vkthakur on Friday, March 27, 2009 (EST) The F-15SE Silent Eagle is expected to cost $100 million, not the F-15E Strike Eagle. The prices quoted are from fiscal 1998. It is unlikely they are radically different today, considering the stability and strength of the dollar. The Super Hornets sold to Australia come with 10 years of paid for maintenance. Reply to this Comment to mr thakur and other friends By shudra14 on Sunday, March 29, 2009 (EST) The Super Hornets sold to Australia come with 10 years of paid for maintenance --------------------------------------- aussies bought superhornet for $ 4.6 billion US dollars or 6 billion australian dollars out of that 24 f18e/f cost $ 2.4 billion australian dollar and $ 3.6 billion australian dollars r for training and maintaince of 24 f18e/f for 10 years so superhonet needs maintaince and that too at hefty price but boeing claims that superhornet needs no maintaince before 6000 hrs is totally toatally wrong and 6000hrs is the total life of superhornet and there is no air force which flies their aircraft for 6000 hrs in just 10 years so claiming that an aircraft needs no maintaince for entire duration of its life that is 6000hrs is laughable is shornet needs no maintaince before 6000hrs then why australia paid hell amount of money to US for maintaince if their shornets r brand new,if above claim by boeing true then in this case shornets needs no maintaince for next 10 years so y did australia paid so much money for just maintaince surpricisingly no other contender making such claims as boeing is doing Reply to this Comment f18 By shudra14 on Sunday, March 29, 2009 (EST) f16blk60 cost UAE $ 80 million per aircraft so shornet must be costly than f16blk60 then y $ 57 million price of shornet as u claimed is wrong Reply to this Comment rd33 By shudra14 on Monday, March 30, 2009 (EST) did russia stopped the sale of rd93 engines for jf17 to pakis if yes then mig35 might have chance and also v don't want 300 jf17 on other side of border for sure Reply to this Comment Re: rd33 By vkthakur on Monday, March 30, 2009 (EST) The Russians went ahead with the supply of RD-33 engines to China for use on the JF-17, taking a cue from the warming relations between India and Pakistan before the Mumbai massacre. The Manmohan Singh government did not make the supply an issue. Pakistan has received eight JF-17 fighters over the last two years, and has now signed a deal to buy the next 42, of 300, of these jets from China. These 42 will cost $14.3 million per aircraft. The final 250 will cost $12 million each. Reply to this Comment rd33 By shudra14 on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 (EST) i think russia did not allow china to sell rd33 for jf17,those 8 jf17 pakis have the engines of those 8 aircraft were from intial batch and after that india insisted over the sale of rd33 to pakistan and since than russia has taken its hands off the rd33 engine sales to pakis Reply to this Comment What Russian System Does Syria Use? By jobra11 on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 (EST) I have read that Syria uses a version of S300. Israel was able to fly over launchers and destroy missiles and target with 20 plus year old aircraft. That must weigh heavily on the mind. Russian have much advertised range but have not had much success. US and Israeli jammers made them totally ineffective. Media says that US jammed for Israel but either country could have done it. That is the problem for Russian systems; lack of success. It is always brought up that the Russian equipment is old but it is still a fact that Mig 29 has been nothing more than a target and S series missles have been totally ineffective when called upon. The only success that I'm aware of is the shoot down of the Backfire bomber in the latest European action. The F117 shot down was taken out by a really old system with a very experienced operator factored with an over confident pilot. That is why the Barak. Reply to this Comment to jobra By shudra14 on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 (EST) I have read that Syria uses a version of S300. Israel was able to fly over launchers and destroy missiles and target with 20 plus year old aircraft. That must weigh heavily on the mind. Russian have much advertised range but have not had much success. US and Israeli jammers made them totally ineffective. Media says that US jammed for Israel but either country could have done it ------------------------------------------------- then u read totally wrong as of now sysria doesn't has s300 system Reply to this Comment s300 By shudra14 on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 (EST) sysria bought panstir s1 air defence system it was the incident that no one exactly knows that how far deep into syrian territory israeli fighters flew or whether panstir s1 defence system was there or not or whether it was switched on or not or was still being deployed u should know that in 1973 war with egypt israel lost 64 fighters in just half a day against russian SAM missiles ,when israeli fighter flew at high altitude they were shot by SA2 sam and when they flew lower altitude they were smashed by SHILKA RADAR GUIDED GUNS and israeli lost hundreds of tanks against wire guided anti tank missiles in that war too because they thought that in 1967 war they had success with their tank brigades but they were wrong totally this time by the way sysrians still use very old mig21,and mig29 which r not upgraded when u compare them with israeli air force which has almost new aircraft in all middle east theatre israel gets newer systems at much lower and subsidized cost from US and moreover it can make its own EW and other systems compared to syrians now if u compare both air forces u can easily find out that there is almost 25 years of difference between EW systems of 2 air forces by the way israel is most defended country out there Reply to this Comment barak sam By shudra14 on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 (EST) what is so special about barak sam for air force with just range of 70km and operating alittude of 20km , and for navy same missiles as well and what DRDO is doing in this and all systems aesa radar,missiles seekers ,missiles being built by israel and for seekers, and NOT SURE FOR AESA radars WHETHER we r getting or not getting any tot its range was scaled down to favour israelis which i am going to explain by the way israel uses PATRIOT AND ARROW anti ballistic missiles as its primary anti ballistic missile defence ,ARROW can hit missiles at altitude of upto 50km ,if that engagement fails then PATRIOT SAM will follow upto 30km altitude and then if PATRIOT sam fails MRSAM will go to engage incoming missiles there r already better systems in market both for navy and air force talking of naval MRSAM MBDA aster missiles have better range than barak MRSAM and they also have sampson and smart L aesa radars and for land based system there r patriot and s400 sam systems , and S400 has twice the range of patriot and s400 is all in one system means it has short range,midium range,long range,very long range missiles(operating range from 30km to 400km with operating altitude of 40km) s400 also uses both aesa or pesa radars 59N6 Protivnik GE is PESA radar GAMMA DE AESA radar provides mid course guidance to missiles and operated in L BAND same as SMART L radar NEBO VHF AESA radar , now it dependes on user or threat level whether to operated theis system with only with PESA radar,OR USE use onle GAMMA DE aesa radar or use both gamma de and nebo aesa radars simultaneously ok now if land based MRSAM sees incoming missiles and detect those missiles at 300km then what it can do just except waiting when those missiles reach its engagement range and come down to 20km altitude on the other hand s400 sees incoming missiles and it can dispatch its missiles with range of 400km,200km,90km,30km with operating altitude of 40km to engage those missiles at various distances and various altitude just think if pakis have s400 and and then our fighters and missiles don't even make it to paki territory Reply to this Comment s300 By shudra14 on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 (EST) nowdays western countries trying to get knowledge of s300 sytem this is what israel did when they exercised with athens which has s300 system now other NATO countries doing same in SEAD exercises with poland or other ex soviet states which have this system by the way US tried to spy on BARS ON SU30MKI 2-3 TIOMES THIS IS WHAT WESTERN COUNTRIES DOING Reply to this Comment

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